Dr Clarke Jones holds a PhD from the University of New South Wales, which examined the burring roles of the military and police in response to non-traditional security threats.
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In this Lateline interview, Clarke Jones discusses the potential impact of the deaths of key ISIL terrorists, Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar. He notes that while we may not have sympathy for these terrorists, they leave families, and children behind in this conflict zone.
Watch the interview on the Lateline website.